Budget Cuts?

[chip]

"Salary of retired US Presidents .............$180,000 FOR LIFE
Salary of House/Senate .......................$174,00​0 FOR LIFE
Salary of Speaker of the House ............$223,500 FOR LIFE
Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders ...... $193,400 FOR LIFE
Average Salary of a teacher ................ $40,065
Average Salary of Soldier DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN $38,000
I think we found where the cuts should be made."

[Stricken]

Think pyro corrected this something like 0.00058% of the budget.

[Macco568]

Government. Bleh.

[Stricken]

I love how the Gov and his wife signed up for the best ins plan for 30.00 a month! Gee wonder who foots that bill?

[throttlejunkie_R1]

I think the point is more that they don't expect themselves to suffer but talk about others making sacrifices.

[Lunchbox]

I think they all should make $10,000 a year and our teachers, soliders, cops, firefighters,and paramedics should make alot more money!

[pyroman1]

Think pyro corrected this something like 0.00058% of the budget.

Yep.

These numbers are incorrect. The amount is slightly higher for former Presidents and significantly lower for everyone else (http://www.ipl.org/div/farq/pensionFARQ.html and http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...ongresspay.htm). In addition, even if these numbers were accurate, you are talking about a whopping ~$75MM reduction by completely eliminating them. That is 0.00051% of the debt.

Please help to stop the spread of propaganda.

If we ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan then we wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars in those places.

If we ended the Department of Education then states could figure out how best to teach their youth.

This is another of those feel good stories that is spread by people and doesn't do a damn thing to change things. Our defense budget could be 10% of what it currently is and we would still out spend every other nation on this planet.

We need major cuts to defense first. Then we need major cuts to, and the eventual elimination of, all entitlement programs if we want to again be a prosperous nation.


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[pyroman1]

I think they all should make $10,000 a year and our teachers, soliders, cops, firefighters,and paramedics should make alot more money!

Common mistake: four out of five of those groups are state employees and not federal employees.

In addition, cops make quite good money given what they are tasked to do and the actual danger involved in their jobs.


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[chip]

Think pyro corrected this something like 0.00058% of the budget.

Yep.


If we ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan then we wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars in those places.

If we ended the Department of Education then states could figure out how best to teach their youth.

This is another of those feel good stories that is spread by people and doesn't do a damn thing to change things. Our defense budget could be 10% of what it currently is and we would still out spend every other nation on this planet.

We need major cuts to defense first. Then we need major cuts to, and the eventual elimination of, all entitlement programs if we want to again be a prosperous nation.


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I can appreciate your POVs, but I simply like the point it makes to me, which is:

If we paid soldiers the same as we did politicians, we wouldn't still be at war..........and if we paid teachers what we pay politicians, we wouldn't go to war.

Am I missing anything?

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[throttlejunkie_R1]

i can appreciate your povs, but i simply like the point it makes to me, which is:

If we paid soldiers the same as we did politicians, we wouldn't still be at war..........and if we paid teachers what we pay politicians, we wouldn't go to war.

Am i missing anything?

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+1000000000

[geekonamotorcycle]

How abo0ut these


FY2003 Supplemental: Operation Iraqi Freedom: Passed April 2003; Total $78.5 billion, $54.4 billion Iraq War
FY2004 Supplemental: Iraq and Afghanistan Ongoing Operations/Reconstruction: Passed November 2003; Total $87.5 billion, $70.6 billion Iraq War
FY2004 DoD Budget Amendment: $25 Emergency Reserve Fund (Iraq Freedom Fund): Passed July 2004, Total $25 billion, $21.5 billion (estimated) Iraq War
FY2005 Emergency Supplemental: Operations in the War on Terror; Activities in Afghanistan; Tsunami Relief: Passed April 2005, Total $82 billion, $58 billion (estimated) Iraq War
FY2006 Department of Defense appropriations: Total $50 billion, $40 billion (estimated) Iraq War.
FY2006 Emergency Supplemental: Operations Global War on Terror; Activities in Iraq & Afghanistan: Passed February 2006, Total $72.4 billion, $60 billion (estimated) Iraq War
FY2007 Department of Defense appropriations: $70 billion(estimated) for Iraq War-related costs[4][5]
FY2007 Emergency Supplemental (proposed) $100 billion
FY2008 Bush administration has proposed around $190 billion for the Iraq War and Afghanistan[6]
FY2009 Obama administration has proposed around $130 billion in additional funding for the Iraq War and Afghanistan.[7]
FY2011 Obama administration proposes around $159.3 billion for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.[8

[RICO]

Sorry to tell you, but I've been saying this for years!
At the most we should give them 1 more year after their last term, at the most and that is after their last term.

Also think how much we spend on private security after they retire?
Plus most of them re all millionaires anyways!

[chip]

sorry to tell you, but i've been saying this for years!
At the most we should give them 1 more year after their last term, at the most and that is after their last term.

Also think how much we spend on private security after they retire?
Plus most of them re all millionaires anyways!

+1

[Bodhi1]

Yep.


If we ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan then we wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars in those places.

If we ended the Department of Education then states could figure out how best to teach their youth.

This is another of those feel good stories that is spread by people and doesn't do a damn thing to change things. Our defense budget could be 10% of what it currently is and we would still out spend every other nation on this planet.

We need major cuts to defense first. Then we need major cuts to, and the eventual elimination of, all entitlement programs if we want to again be a prosperous nation.


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Why are you not a politician? You're so in to politics, i feel like you should be trying to start a new wave of politicians lol.

[Stricken]

Looks like we are 100% War Mongers!!! I understood the Gulf War but never understood why we are in Afghanistan!

[Stricken]

I agree Pyro would be good. I dont agree with all his thinking but 80% of his ideas are better than most of the politicians stupidity.

[Scottly]

Why are you not a politician?

Because he's not an assbone, two-faced, fucktarded liar.


If a politician wants to get votes, he must vow to represent the majority and continuously appear to do such. In order to do that and assuage the many financial interests who are persuading him to do otherwise, he must lie...to sombody.

Since it is easier to lie to voters and get away with it than it is to lie to financially savy campaign donors, that's what happens. Until you remove money from politics, it will always happen.

When you remove money from politics, you then have a political process controlled by the free press. We don't want that either.

Somewhere in between, there is a balance.

[pyroman1]

I also don't have the financial backing to make a successful run. You have to be well off to be able to afford to make a run for office.


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[BobTheBiker]

besides which, I think your thinking would piss off WAY too many powerful people, and that bodes ill by all accounts.

[KyleB]

Looks like we are 100% War Mongers...

...and not showing any signs of letting up. Again, Ron Paul is right.