Wear Your Gear!! [Archive] - Tampasportbikes.com

snook

05-26-2006, 08:26 PM

Guys, post up your thoughts/ideas/experiences that could actually help a new rider.

Mine, transition braking. I may not have the correct term for it, but stick with me.

When going from one type of surface (pavement) to another (grass), release brake pressure...
when you reach the new surface type, reapply the brake and slow yourself as much as you can.
This can apply to any two surfaces, not just pavement to grass.

The down side of not knowing this ahead of time. Fractured clavicle and an extended recovery period.

NEXT!!!!!!

ShortyR6

05-26-2006, 08:31 PM

do not target fixate
turn your head, and keep your eyes moving
always anticipate what others will do

SLOW DOWN!!!
WEAR YOUR GEAR!!!

wolfey971

05-26-2006, 08:44 PM

Don't Drink and Ride

MianoSM

05-26-2006, 08:45 PM

Motorcycle Safety Foundation approved course.

Also never think with your dick, it's head is far too small. : )

Wicked1

05-26-2006, 08:54 PM

swerve, then brake
-or-
brake, then swerve

-BUT-
Never do both at the same time!

liquid_iq

05-26-2006, 09:26 PM

slow speed maneuvering, which i think the msf course addresses. much overlooked.

other than that, GEAR GEAR GEAR. or as cecil says ATGATT.

griffinzx10

05-26-2006, 09:55 PM

Smooth throttle control.
Target Fixating
Mastering up/downshifting, braking so it becomes something you dont have to think about
Braking before you enter the turn, not in it
Looking thru the turn
Gauging your corner entry speed so as to not enter too hot.

Cecil

05-26-2006, 09:56 PM

ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time)

* Helmet: A Proper fit is critical... aka: very tightly
* Gloves: Try going through a day without using your hands.... Reinforced gloved (Racing Style) are great for street and track riding.
* Boots: At a minimum something to cover your ankle.... and leather is your friend.
* Jacket: Mess is better than nothing, textile is better than mess, leather is supior to textile.... padded / reinforced gear is best.
* Pants: Jeans are better than nothing, dragging jeans are better than street jeans, then textile, then leather.... padded / reinforced racing gear is best.
** A 1 peice suit is safer than a 2 peice suit **

If you can not afford gear, you can not afford to ride.
If it is too hot to wear gear, it is too hot to ride.

Do not ride until you are legal (Endorsement).

If you ride, you crash.... no exceptions.
Dress for the Crash, Not for the Ride.

Insurance does not seem so expensive when you are laid-up in the hospital with a totalled bike and tens-of-thousands (if not more) of dollars in accident related expenses.

Ride within your limits.
Keep your ego in check.
Have fun.... but Safety is Paramount!
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned track veterans... it will be painful.
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned stunters... it will be expensive.

Wear Gear.
Have an Endorsement.
Have Insurance.
Ride within YOUR limits.

Cecil

05-26-2006, 09:58 PM

Florida State Laws

http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/...lt.asp?state=fl

Road
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Safety Helmet 316.211 Equipment for motorcycle and moped riders.-- - Not required over 21 with a minimum of $10,000 in medical insurance
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State Funded Rider Ed - Available for all eligible applicants-required under age 21 education
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Eye Protection - Required by law
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Daytime Use of Headlight - Required by law-modulating headlight permitted
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Passenger Seat - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Footrest - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Age Restriction - None Helmet Speakers No Restrictions
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Periodic Safety Inspection - None
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Mirror Left(L) Right(R) - One required by law
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Radar Detector - No Restriction
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Turn Signals - Not required.
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Muffler - No person shall modify the exhaust system in such a manner that the noise emitted is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
No person shall operate a vehicle with an exhaust system so modified. .
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Maximum Sound Level - Maximum allowable A-weighted sound levels based on measurements taken at a distance of 50 feet from center line of travel (Sec. 316.293):
1) Manufactured before 1/1/79--82dBA (35mph or less); 86dBA (over 35mph)
2)Manufactured after 1/1/79--78dBA(35mph or less); 82dBA(over 35mph).
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State Insurance Requirements - FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW-IT DOES APPLY TO MOTORCYCLES!
Florida's No-Fault, or "PIP Law" does not apply to motorcycles.
HOWEVER, the Financial Responsibility FR Law applies to ALL motor vehicles in Florida, including motorcycles.
Thus the voluntary purchase of motor vehicle liability insurance by an owner, operator or owner/ operator is highly recommended.
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Failure to carry property damage and bodily injury liability insurance in case of a crash, DUI conviction or other occurrences outlined in Florida's FR Law, Ch. 324, may result in some or all of the following:
Loss of license/tag and registration, and/or restitution or civil court judgment, and future proof (three years) of high risk, SR22 mandatory liability insurance coverage just to keep your driver license - even if you do not own any motor vehicles.
Source: Florida Motorcycle Handbook 2006
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Handlebar Height - No higher than top of shoulders of the operator when seated upon the motorcycle.
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Rider-Education Waiver - Skill & Knowledge Test
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Accept Motorcycle Endorsement From Other States - Yes
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Accept RiderEd Completion Card From Other States - N/A
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Motorcycles operating two abreast in same lane - Yes. 316.209 - Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.-- (1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.
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Lane Splitting 316.209 Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic (2) - The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.
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Off Road
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Safety Helmet - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Eye Protection - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Minimum Operator Age - No Restriction
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Rider Education Certification - Not Required
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Operator License - Not Required
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Headlight - Not Required
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Taillight - Not Required
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Muffler - Not Required
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Maximum Sound Level - No Limit
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Spark Arrestor - Not Required
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Registration - Required by law
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Vehicle Title - Required
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Trails Program - Available

MianoSM

05-26-2006, 10:32 PM

Lane Splitting 316.209 Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic (2) - The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.

I really wish there was some way to get rid of this one. I know it would piss off a lot of cagers, but I nearly die if I ride to work and have to sit in the heat of the day in full gear(which is black). Lights are a b1tch, and I could be out of everyones hair if I could just cut 'em all. : )

SloDown

05-26-2006, 10:48 PM

Here's one not in the books

IF YOU ARE AT A RED LIGHT ALONE (No cars behind you) FLASH YOUR BRAKE LIGHTS ON AND OFF UNTIL 1. The light changes or 2. Another vehicle pulls up behind you.

EVEN IF YOU HAVE A VEHICLE TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT OF YOU CONTINUE TO FLASH YOUR BRAKES UNTIL THERE IS ONE BEHIND YOU.

This will make you alot more noticable when approached from behind. MSF Course tells students they should keep their bikes in gear when at a light (this is so you have the brake constantly applied and lights are on) but we all know how that goes on a hot day on the road. Neutral/Visor up

BMBSHL

05-26-2006, 10:50 PM

If you go into a corner too hot, lean over harder, maintain the throttle, and push on the bar harder in the direction you want to go in. Trust your bike. Your bike can handle it a lot better than you think it can.

HeWhoIs

05-26-2006, 11:15 PM

Maintain proper spacing between you and everyone else. Especially in the twisties. If the rider in front of you goes down or has to slow up for some reason, you don't want to run over him/her!

Scan ahead as far as possible, less chance of being surprised that way.

Don't go faster than you can see. Blind corners, crests in the road, etc.

Don't outrun your headlights at night. Use other people's headlights to your advantage.

Ride your own ride! Don't let peer pressure (real or otherwise) push you into something you'll regret later.

Wear your gear all the time, it only takes one time to regret not doing so.

If you can't afford decent insurance coverage, maybe you should get a different bike?

buckwild750

05-27-2006, 08:28 PM

When I am by myself and pulling up to a red light, I move all the way to the left or right. This way if someone does not brake, they may just clip me and I won't take the full brunt of an impact.

LatinBusa

05-27-2006, 08:37 PM

Keep your distance from others. Give your self enough time to act.

Prettyboy

05-27-2006, 09:01 PM

While making left turns at intersections in cages many count the cars they see before turning behind the last one........If your behind the last car as a motorcyclist you could get turned into.....Always watch the guy infront and across from you ready to make that left in front of you.

Wicked1

05-29-2006, 09:17 AM

If you're behind a really slow vehicle and you're getting the urge to pass on the left, check to see whether that vehicle could make a left turn into a driveway or other roadway before passing. They may be going slow because they're lost and looking for a place to bust out a U-turn.

When your light turns green, look both ways and pull out slowly. Red lights are run by impatient and inattentive people all the time.

Don't ride in a cager's blind spot (off their rear quarter panel).

If you have to park your bike in a freshly paved parking lot, find an old soda can, crush it flat and place it under the sidestand. This will keep your sidestand from sinking into the soft asphalt and tipping your bike over.

yesenia_n22

05-29-2006, 05:17 PM

oh gawd...
A lot of stuff to take in....I'll keep a log. Thanks to all, this does help!

SloDown

05-29-2006, 06:02 PM

Make sure you give your tires time to warm up before taking any hard corners or sharp turns at high speeds (speeds higher than whats posted). This will give your tires more traktion (sticky) to hold on to the raod

DevilDogg

06-13-2006, 09:00 AM

Say it once say it a million times ATGATT, always watch other drivers they probably are not watchin you.

SloDown

06-13-2006, 09:08 AM

Don't try to show off, riding takes concentration. Focus, and realize that you are very vunerable. Make sure to do your T Cloc check (Tires, cables, levers, oil, controls) whenever possible

Big E

06-13-2006, 09:13 AM

Always watch for the other guy. They will not watch for YOU. Great info people!!

Fictionnn

06-13-2006, 10:10 AM

TRUST YOUR TIRES!!!!!!!

If you ever think that you are going into a corner too hot and dont have time to properly break before entering the corner, slow down as much as you can but once the corner is reached STAY STEADY ON THE THOTTLE and LEAN THE BIKE. The bike can lean farther than you realize (you are not as far over as you think you are) Besides it is better to lowside and slide off the road than it is to highside and fly into a tree. You are not in any danger untill your peg feelers are scraping the ground. At average speeds and under steady acceleration a tire only requires 10-15% of its total surface area to properly grip the road.

TRUST YOUR TIRES!!!!
(They can do more than you!)

The_Jarhead

06-13-2006, 10:40 AM

Cecil

06-13-2006, 12:53 PM

Watch these two videos and know that the very real possibility exist that you too could find yourself questioning not only your judgement, but the judgement of those that you have no control of.

Gravity Happens.... it is unavoidable.

Ride Safe.

Ride Smart.

ATGATT

Video #1 (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=CB72CA7E-E77F-458B-A967-09E280072CE9)

Video #2 (http://motohouston.com/chris/Crashcollage/crashcollage.wmv)

~SimplyDawn~

06-28-2006, 01:48 AM

Some of these I knew and alot of them i didnt great post guys some things learned here.

moke

08-19-2006, 11:58 PM

Prettyboy

08-20-2006, 03:52 AM

Make yourself visible to oncoming traffic...ex - don't ride directly behind cars remaining hidden.

~SimplyDawn~

08-20-2006, 02:44 PM

NEVER LET ANYONE RIDE YOUR BIKE!AND RIDE WITH IN YOUR LIMITS ALWAYS!

I PROMISED I WOULD NEVER LAY IT DOWN AGAIN .. lmao :sinister:

sportbikedaddy

08-25-2006, 10:27 AM

not a new rider but this is a great read,an we never stop improving our skills
a lot of things here make more sense now.man that 2nd vid makes you think
and keeps ya humble.but i love to ride and i accept these risks as others
here have said don't ride over your head and always wear your gear.:cool:

BobTheBiker

08-25-2006, 11:21 AM

DO NOT panic when the sh!t hits the fan and your rear wheel is locked up, remain calm and ride it out.

Tarbaby

08-25-2006, 12:13 PM

great responses so far... let's keep 'em coming!!

Know your bike! -Read your MOM (motorcycle operators manual). Knowing the options and features of your bike now, can help when/if you neee them.

Maintain your bike! -Everytime I prepare for a ride, I do a 'pre-flight'. I check all the lights, fluids and tires while waiting for her to warm up. Twice a month I check the brake pads and inspect for anything unusual; frame cracks, leaks, etc.

Practice your skills! -go to a business park on the weekend and practice those tight turns and braking. You can cut tennis balls in half to use as 'cones' to practice weaving.

Know yourself! -Keep your emotions in check!
Anger -never ride when you're upset, you are thinking about THAT issue and not your riding.
Confidence vs. ego -is great but don't be c0cky and ride beyond your skills and/or abilities. Just because everyone else is doing xx road or bridge at 140+, doesn't mean you have to. If you're not comfortable doing something, the others will wait. If they don't wait, they're not worthy of riding with.
Rest -be well rested and hydrated. Just as with driving tired, you can fall asleep behind the handlebars. You may think that the wind will wake you up and keep you alert, but it only does for the first mile. A sluggish body means slower mental processes and reflexes. Do stop for water, you loose a lot of fluids while riding and can lead to heat stroke or just make for an uncomfortable ride.

moke

10-03-2006, 08:44 PM

There are way too many street senerios that can and will occur at any given point in time, its almost impossiable to read all this and beable to remeber it and respond in time!(c-riding by feel)so for the new rider my best advise and one that i think kept me alive all these years is......................................
"GO TO A TRACK DAY AT LEAST ONCE!" This will teach you every thing you need to know about turning braking throttle control and even swearving and braking at the same time.Its called trail braking( braking while leaned over).
And dont let all the people that dont go, for what ever reasons to the track stop you by telling you all kinds of things like its too expensive, or wow thats a far drive(2hrs?), cuz most of them although they won't admit it,and pretend&say they dont want to drop their bike around a curve at 90mph, are probly doing it on the street anyway which is alot more dangerous!just got too many excuses or are affraid of the microscope!!hahahahahahaha,so man/woman up! and go!!! plus its actually a good stress relever!!!;) ;) ;) ;)

griffinzx10

10-05-2006, 02:29 PM

I know a lot of us on here are gear freaks, and believe in it whole heartedly..

I just got this from cyclespace.com, it was a really good read, especially if anyone rides without gear.

I know in it isn't a law to wear jeans, jacket and gloves, but reading this article really makes you think about it....

GEAR, GEAR, GEAR
ATGATT All The Gear, All The Time

http://www.speedfreakinc.com/content/articles/riding/roadrashqueen.html

ctate

10-05-2006, 02:39 PM

Don't Drink and Ride
+1

ctate

10-05-2006, 02:42 PM

vrod

10-05-2006, 02:49 PM

Head and Eyes. Look where your going, not where you've been.

When coming to a stop, don't forget to put your foot down. (Don't even ask)

Use your brakes for stopping, not your shoes.

Watch for debri in the roadway at intersection from auto crashes that havent been cleaned up.

Practice your slow manuevers. Anyone can go fast, but only those in real control can go slow.

Don't allow yourself to get boxed in by other traffic.

Always give yourself an out in case of emergencies to avoid a collision.

snook

10-05-2006, 02:54 PM

drink and ride.

Doc

10-05-2006, 02:55 PM

sixxer

10-05-2006, 03:07 PM

i remember seeing the pics of this girl on the net awhile back.... here is the story behind the pics http://www.speedfreakinc.com/content/articles/riding/roadrashqueen.html

"My road rash will take several years to completely heal and will never look or feel normal again. I have conquered the only fear that kept me from riding and I will never put myself in the same position to receive such injuries as I have lived through this past year. I stress the importance of wearing full gear to each and every person I ride with, talk to, or even who happens to read my story. I believe that my experiences are a lesson to every type of rider or passenger. I would never wish the pain I felt and still feel today upon anyone in this world. It is completely avoidable with a few extra layers, and I can’t say it enough: it is undeniably worth it to gear up. Everything I have gone through this past year will not be in vain if my testimony is enough to save someone’s skin"

griffinzx10

10-05-2006, 03:29 PM

Thanks, but like I said, it found me, it was mailed thru cyclespace.....

MianoSM

10-05-2006, 03:33 PM

I wonder what her self-esteem is like?

Cute girl, too bad she didn't see pictures like her own before the accident. : (

Prettyboy

10-05-2006, 03:33 PM

It's that at one point she just thought she was so cute.

It's to bad this lesson is taught daily.

vrod

10-05-2006, 03:39 PM

When drinking alcohol, the first thing to go is judgement.

snook

10-05-2006, 05:19 PM

I lack judgement without it.
but, FTR, I was joking.
just having fun with the alcohol police.

My final contribution: do want you want.
I ride how I want, when I want, and I
bet there isn't a person here that can change that.

enjoy yourselves while you can, meet your end
the way it was intended, don't let someone put you in
a situation that isn't right for you.
Limits aint just for speed.

ronrdrcr

10-07-2006, 07:44 AM

Here's a good story on why All The Gear All The Time

http://www.speedfreakinc.com/content/articles/riding/roadrashqueen.html

In case you haven't seen it yet. Good comeback from a bad get off.

Ron

ShortyR6

10-07-2006, 07:48 AM

i dont feel comfortable with no gear on. i have to have it. kind of my security blanket.

buckwild750

10-07-2006, 07:57 AM

i dont feel comfortable with no gear on. i have to have it. kind of my security blanket.

+1

Also since I bought my leather jacket I have not used my mesh jacket. I just don't feel as comfortable without it. I guess since I have seen people wreck in front of me and seen what there gear did is an incentive to wear it.

Prettyboy

10-07-2006, 08:09 AM

I gotta (what feels like) 10 pound thick Joe Rocket......Everytime I look at it I don't see the jacket that keeps me warmer then your t-shirt....I see the battle wounds on the sleeves that remind me of what certain body parts would look like.

....now I need to talk myself into pants.

SVgirlie

10-07-2006, 08:21 AM

I read this yesterday here... I it was posted in Track Talk... last night I went riding with a really cool girl (ahem) and mentioned this article to her too. It really left an impression on me and I took out my leather jacket. The same one I wore when I wrecked out... ATGATT!!!

Rsix

10-07-2006, 08:30 AM

Yeah those photos made me want a leather jacket when i saw them on http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/bike.htm . First thing I want to get when I get some money is the new MX-1, just for that reason. Good post of people who havent seen these before.
ATGATT

MianoSM

10-07-2006, 10:21 AM

I squid from time to time.

I've had rash all over my back, and hours of getting rocks picked out of my back, and then scrubbed with H202, it aint fun. : (

I too need to get some pants though.....for some reason I have this mentality that I am running a higher risk when on a N. run then when I'm commuting from my place to a friends place. : (

mustangman70

10-07-2006, 10:27 AM

I too LOVE my leather ICON jacket...

I also need to get leather pants, had i had them i wouldent have any rash on my legs from this last fall....jsut the broken leg :(

ronrdrcr

10-07-2006, 10:30 AM

I'm looking for a decent set of leathers to buy for the daily grind. I still don't feel comfortable in the textile I wear now. Although it's better than nothing.

Ron

Papa Jon

10-07-2006, 12:06 PM

Here's my take on her little write up...

I was 21 once...And I did some of the dumbest things anyone could think of...If I was able to purchase a vehicle that was 400lb, 160HP, and capable of 180mph when I was at that age I probably wouldn't be typing this, I can almost gurantee that...I know for sure I would have been too dumb to wear gear...

So I won't judge to harshly...Being young and growing up is about making mistakes, and hopefully learning from them...It sounds like she learned...Time will tell...

Papa Jon

10-07-2006, 12:08 PM

Here's her myspace for S&G's...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=27132188

MianoSM

10-07-2006, 12:30 PM

Looks like shes put on some weight. : (

RICO

10-07-2006, 12:33 PM

Thank god the two bad wrecks I've had happened in december and january and I was wearing plenty of regular clothe to keep warm. Very good article.
+1

POWDER-P

10-07-2006, 01:15 PM

if that doesnt make you want to wear gear,i dont know what will.

griffinzx10

10-07-2006, 02:49 PM

good post, was already posted 2 times on this site, so I combined the threads.
This way we dont have the same thing posted 3 times in 3 different places

snook

10-14-2006, 03:13 PM

-snook can be reached at:

eight one three
nine two nine
four nine six nine

or PM me.

alcohol is gooder than weed!

RICO

10-14-2006, 04:03 PM

If you are ridding in unfamilier roads and can't tell if the road is turning one way or the other, look up and see which way the power lines go. You can also see if its a tight turn or a long sweeper by this. Trees are also good for this.

khafra

10-20-2006, 02:25 PM

One tip I haven't seen yet that makes a huge difference for me: be sure not to lean on the inside handlebar in turns. I once ran off the road because I forgot this.

If you keep your weight off the handlebars and keep your forearms parallel to the ground, you can turn with ease and a sure hand; if you lean on the handlebar it'll feel like you can move at all (thus the running off the road).

The_Jarhead

10-20-2006, 02:38 PM

You shouldn't lean on the handle bars "at all".
Your grip and arms should be loose. hold your body up with your abs and legs not your hands.
This will not only cause you problems in turning but you fatigue sooner. It can/will cause your hands to fall asleep, and can also cause shoulder/back/ neck pain.

yamomz1

10-26-2006, 07:48 AM

I really wish there was some way to get rid of this one. I know it would piss off a lot of cagers, but I nearly die if I ride to work and have to sit in the heat of the day in full gear(which is black). Lights are a b1tch, and I could be out of everyones hair if I could just cut 'em all. : )

I started riding in Cali and lane sharing is legal which is great to keep moving and leagally there it is under 35 mph with out the POPO bothering you

BusaBiotch

10-26-2006, 12:02 PM

Well as usual, I have to voice my opinion on this. I agree that everyone should wear as much gear as possible to mitigate as many injuries as possible. But until the motorcycle gear manufacturers realize that there are wider variety of size of people riding motorcycles out there, then some people are unable to wear full leather gear all the time. And there is a significant difference being able to afford a leather outfit from cycle gear or having to have one custom made. So if someone that can't afford to have custom leathers made, does that mean they can't afford to ride??? I think every grown adult that gets on a motorcycle takes into their own hands their destiny. The same could be said for people that ride in a car without a seat belt... the same person could recieve the same injuries flying from a vehicle as well. I personally think that everyone here is a grown adult and I have no room to judge them and their actions, i.e. how many people drink and ride, which I would never do.

On a final note, I beleive all of this is great advice... but everyone should not get high and mighty over others for their own choices in life.

Climbs off her soapbox now.....

The_Jarhead

10-26-2006, 12:15 PM

What if someone can't afford to buy new tires? Is it still OK to ride?

I agree that it is a choice, but to say you can't fit in to cheap stuff so you can’t wear it is no excuse. Yes I do believe if you can't afford to do something right you shouldn't do it. Now if you just don't wear gear all the time cause you choose not to that is one thing but if you feel you should and can't afford it then you should be doing it. That's just MHO.

Like I said it's a choice. I don't always wear my gear and I understand the risks I am taking.

The seat belt analogy isn't really the same. If a rock, say the size of a golf ball comes at your face and hits your car you may get a cracked windshield. That same rock with out a full face helmet to a biker is whole world of hurt.

moke

11-06-2006, 10:21 PM

:helmet: :helmet: :yikes: :yikes: :helmet: :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/moke1k/CIMG0569.jpg

"CAN YOU GUYS GUESS WHOS HELMET COLLECTION THIS IS???" FAIRLY EASY. NICE THOUGH HUH!!!LETS SEE AND THIS ONES WHERE I WON THE WORLD TITLE..:helmet: :helmet: :helmet: :helmet: :helmet: :helmet: :helmet:
ARAI imo the best!

Gibby

11-07-2006, 01:59 AM

And here we have the Bible of street riding. Lots of good stuff. Personally, I believe in gear. It has saved me in the past, and recently even. I made a PROMISE to my wife to always wear my gear. I do not break promises. One thing I would like to say is, if its hot, and you take off with your shield up, and that bee or dragon fly flies into your helmet, DONT FREAK!. Discipline yourself, pull over safely and deal with it. been there done that. Was hard to tolerate, but im glad i did.

xb9sx_rider

11-07-2006, 02:49 AM

i dont recall seeing MSF being posted....(could be wrong tho), but TAKE THE MSF!!!!!! even if its not required by law (if your over 21). its still WELL worth the money.