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I'm not into doing wheelies, etc. But I thought this video was good that I found on google.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=motorcycles+wheelie
MianoSM
07-11-2006, 09:03 PM
I thought the message was going to be....
Very Carefully. : )
LOL... no I remember seeing people ask on this and other forums. This video is just well presented. I'd rather see people learn somewhat safely that just "winging" it...
griffinzx10
07-11-2006, 09:13 PM
+1.... that is a good video
LatinBusa
07-11-2006, 09:59 PM
That was a great video. I will be trying that on my bike. Thanks
mosh69
07-12-2006, 01:31 AM
Not bad at all.
I've yet to consistently "Clutch it up". But I've got the first gear "Power wheelie" nailed pretty decent, so I guess I'm ready to "Move on to the next section".:biker:
LB, I wanna see it tomorrow night beotch!! Dawn says if you don't do it, ure gay!!:sinister:
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 07:45 AM
Not to bad of a video but i find it kinda bad that they are promoting "power wheelies" -- SOOOOOO Dangerious.
Blip or Slip thats how its done
Not to bad of a video but i find it kinda bad that they are promoting "power wheelies" -- SOOOOOO Dangerious.
Blip or Slip thats how its done
Why are they dangerous? Just curious...
The_Jarhead
07-12-2006, 08:51 AM
I have to ask the same thing power wheelies are alot easier to control. It's way to easy to loop the bike when clutching it up especially if you are not use having the front up.
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 08:57 AM
Why are they dangerous? Just curious...
a proper, "safe" wheelie is to be controled. When cracking the throttle wide open and just hoping the wheel comes off the ground the bike is NO WHERE NEAR control.
A proper wheelie is to be done with torque (bliping the throttle or slipping the clutch) NOT horsepower (which is what you are using in a power wheelie). Not to mention running out a gear can cause the front end to slam into the ground.
The best way to go about when learning is to stay within 30 - 50 mph (max) when just powering it up most times the wheel wont leave the ground untill 50 mph then next thing you know wobble wobble wobble SLAM!!!!
Granted when under heavy acceleration a wheelie can and will happen but it should be kept to a minimum (not encouraged)
Im not sure if i anwsered your question or not but there you go.
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 09:04 AM
I have to ask the same thing power wheelies are alot easier to control. It's way to easy to loop the bike when clutching it up especially if you are not use having the front up.
They seem easy to control but believe me its harder to loop a bike than you think. It just feels like you are gonna loop but realisticly your front wheel is only about 2 feet of the ground.
Power wheelies are too unreliable and when at such RPM's the balance point is just about pointless cause if you can get there and hold it you are winding the hell out of your gears and you will need to shift. Problem with that is that when you shift it will throw you into your peak torque range and most likely that will cause you to loop.
Keep the RPM's low and you will stay in control.
Scott982
07-12-2006, 10:03 AM
power wheelies are dangerous...When you are using all that power to bring it up and then when you hit balance point and the bike is just floating you are gonna loop... Clutching is way more consistant and when you clutch it up you go straight up to balance point (well depending how much you clutch it) and then you use the throttle and the rear brake to adjust from there. People are always scared to clutch but if you just start out little by little you will be comfortable in no time and doing standups staggered with your left foot on the passenger peg makes it alot easier also...
MianoSM
07-12-2006, 10:06 AM
I like both wheels on the ground - but cool vid. : )
I like both wheels on the ground - but cool vid. : )
I feel the same way... LOL
I posted mainly for others who i've seen ask.
A proper wheelie is to be done with torque (bliping the throttle or slipping the clutch) NOT horsepower (which is what you are using in a power wheelie). Not to mention running out a gear can cause the front end to slam into the ground.
Can you explain to me what "blipping the throttle and slipping the clutch" is? I think I have a general idea, but never really had it expained...
MianoSM
07-12-2006, 10:17 AM
You going to be setting up a Stunt 101 class Fictionnn?, cause I'd be interested in blipping my front end up the right way a couple times - the rest would just be spectator. : )
RedlineJimmy
07-12-2006, 10:18 AM
I say we battle for miles like the old days before the parking lots :sinister: . My best was just over 3 miles. They were all done without the clutch too ;). Who's game?
mosh69
07-12-2006, 10:19 AM
The "Power wheelie" is basically the only wheelie I've done.
I've heard MANY different methods from many different guys.
Everybodies got their own method and style.
I'm actually doing alot more listening right now than talking, but I do have quite a bit of 1st gear experience and I've got 2 "loops", and the wrecked 929 to prove it.
I started doing the "Power wheelie cause it was the easiest "for me".
But i agree it is quite dangerous and quite tricky, I believe because 1st gear is so "torquey" and "short".
Which is whay I just got my 520 conversion done (2 teeath up in the rear, 1 down in the front).
From what I'm being told, my 2nd gear is now essentially 1st but w/a broader window and a bit less torque meaning easier to control.
I personally do not recommend searching for your "balance point" on a 1st gear "power wheelie". You do need to get high to find it, but 1st is just too unpredictable.
We'll see, I'm taking her out to St pete now.:biker:
Scott982
07-12-2006, 10:22 AM
I say we battle for miles like the old days before the parking lots :sinister: . My best was just over 3 miles. They were all done without the clutch too ;). Who's game?
Im Game.....I remember the old bouncing it up on the highway going like 70 bouncing the shit out of it then riding it forever on the front pegs...lol................
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 10:33 AM
Can you explain to me what "blipping the throttle and slipping the clutch" is? I think I have a general idea, but never really had it expained...
well essentialy a blip is when you get the bike up to the max torque range and hold steady on the throttle. when you are ready you roll hard on the gas for a SPLIT SECOND close it and then crack it open again. The basic mechanics of this is that when you close the throttle the front end compresses and when that happens you pull back on the bars and crack open the throttle again causing a "spring" effect pushing the front wheel in the air. Once it is up just use your throttle to control yourself.
Slipping is by far the smothest and safest way to wheelie. Basicly once again you get to the max torque range. Pull in the clutch and close the throttle. When you are ready you roll on the throttle and basicly dump the clutch causing a burst of power to the rear end and the front will come up. Depending on how much gas you give it will determine how quickly and how high the wheel with rise.
Just remember baby steps. If you are afraid to go higher DON'T.
The best tip anyone ever told me was to relax. When you are done doing the wheelie think about it for a second. If you cant remember everything that was going on AROUND you, you were doing it wrong and you need to chill. Stay calm and focus on the road ahead and everything else will come as a reflex.
Just remember doing a wheelie and riding a wheelie are completely diffrent. Understanding and knowing the diffrence will keep you safe.
Scott982
07-12-2006, 10:35 AM
this thread is making me want to go ride some wheelies tonight...anytbody riding tonight?
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 10:44 AM
this thread is making me want to go ride some wheelies tonight...anytbody riding tonight?
If there is no rain we go out every Wed night after the meet to play.:sinister:
Scott982
07-12-2006, 10:47 AM
I am down to go as long as I don't have to ride a long way on the highway with my tractor geared f4i..lol
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 10:49 AM
I am down to go as long as I don't have to ride a long way on the highway with my tractor geared f4i..lol
na we got our spot close by.
Make sure you take your keys out of your bike if you walk away from it.
I be wanting an F4I :sinister:
Scott982
07-12-2006, 10:53 AM
haha..I got a big chain to lock it up 2.. I know how every one wants to jump on the bandwagon and get an f4i...lol
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 11:08 AM
haha..I got a big chain to lock it up 2.. I know how every one wants to jump on the bandwagon and get an f4i...lol
hey when something is the best why wouldnt you want it.
Is like people who buy Yamaha. Their intentions are good but they just settle with crap insted of buying a Honda.
liquid_iq
07-12-2006, 11:16 AM
hey when something is the best why wouldnt you want it.
WTF???? did i accidentally buy a cool bike???????
Scott982
07-12-2006, 11:16 AM
Is like people who buy Yamaha. Their intentions are good but they just settle with crap insted of buying a Honda.
Thats the truest thing I have read on the internet all morning..haha I was one of these people once. I bought a championship edition R1 brand new and it was complete junk and I had a couploe gsxr's same thing..but my old f3 had 65,000 miles on it when I sold and it still ran and rode great..
Fictionnn
07-12-2006, 11:27 AM
WTF???? did i accidentally buy a cool bike???????
the older 01 - 03 F4i is the best stunt bike ever made
The_Jarhead
07-12-2006, 11:36 AM
WTF???? did i accidentally buy a cool bike???????
No just one that people don't mind crashing all the time...LOL
Scott982
07-12-2006, 11:48 AM
cause you can crash them and they don't fall apart...Thats what makes it perfect for me cause I crash alot..
mosh69
07-12-2006, 12:05 PM
Just got back from St Pete. 2nd gear is crazy!!!
The new sprockets have changed my bike sooo much!!
Def. notice the missing top end, but to power it up in 2nd is beautiful!!
I'm already so comfy doing the "Power wheelie" thing anyway, now I'm in a much smoother, controllable gear.
So. "HELL YES" we're doing some stuntin' tonight!!
I know, I know, the forecast sux.
We'll see.
snook
07-12-2006, 12:45 PM
WTF???? did i accidentally buy a cool bike???????
yes old dude. lol. :P
Fictionnn
07-20-2006, 03:24 PM
the best info i have found
http://krunkedout4life.tripod.com/id3.html
jrckt320
07-20-2006, 04:18 PM
Nice post
Big E
07-21-2006, 07:38 AM
Great post!!!
ntuneminimotors
07-29-2006, 11:12 PM
Ok I have a gsxr 1000 and I jus take it between 35-43 or so and pull it back and it pops right up and i ride 4ever.. never wrecked never had any close calls not even on my first one.. Is there a easier way cuz I seriously thought i was doin it right all along and its easy as hell.. I had a questin tho .. on the highway doin say 60-80 I see them bounce and pop it up I was wonderin if anyone could explain how to do that! Thanks
ZX-5R
08-03-2006, 05:26 PM
thats what I do to power up my r1 35-50 and hit it
LOL... no I remember seeing people ask on this and other forums. This video is just well presented. I'd rather see people learn somewhat safely that just "winging" it...
OH COME ON,..THAT SUX! I NEVER HAD A WHEELIE INSTRUCTOR! MAN I HATE THAT. THATS PART OF THE BADGE OF HONOR THING AND ALL THAT SH*T, YOUR JUMP INTO MANHOOD AS A RIDER! DAM! GOTTA:nono: RUIN EVERYTHING!HAHAHA
Azazel
08-03-2006, 09:07 PM
Wheelie....is that where you get the front tire up off the ground??.......
~SimplyDawn~
08-03-2006, 10:29 PM
Wheelie....is that where you get the front tire up off the ground??.......
LMAO :sinister: HERE WE BREAK IT DOWN FOR YA BARNY STYLE
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/4761/loopbikeks3.gif
DORK
I am just playing
OH COME ON,..THAT SUX! I NEVER HAD A WHEELIE INSTRUCTOR! MAN I HATE THAT. THATS PART OF THE BADGE OF HONOR THING AND ALL THAT SH*T, YOUR JUMP INTO MANHOOD AS A RIDER! DAM! GOTTA:nono: RUIN EVERYTHING!HAHAHA
:occasion1
You're the dude from Hawaii right??
Right on man!
There are just some things a man's gotta do on his own. It's like sex really, if you can't figure out "tab A" goes into "slot B", well son, you in a whole heap 'o trouble...
:nopity:
er... I can't really wheelie... :badteeth:
Prettyboy
08-04-2006, 12:53 AM
:occasion1
You're the dude from Hawaii right??
Right on man!
There are just some things a man's gotta do on his own. It's like sex really, if you can't figure out "tab A" goes into "slot B", well son, you in a whole heap 'o trouble...
:nopity:
er... I can't really wheelie... :badteeth:
Is that what she called it ? "tab A"
....SORRY DUDE.....
Azazel
08-04-2006, 06:51 AM
LMAO :sinister: HERE WE BREAK IT DOWN FOR YA BARNY STYLE
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/4761/loopbikeks3.gif
DORK
I am just playing
How did I know you'd chime in with advice on how to get it up.......with visual aids no less......
:occasion1
You're the dude from Hawaii right??
Right on man!
There are just some things a man's gotta do on his own. It's like sex really, if you can't figure out "tab A" goes into "slot B", well son, you in a whole heap 'o trouble...
:nopity:
er... I can't really wheelie... :badteeth:
EITHER CAN I!
liquid_iq
08-04-2006, 09:17 AM
Ok I have a gsxr 1000 and I jus take it between 35-43 or so and pull it back and it pops right up and i ride 4ever.. never wrecked never had any close calls not even on my first one.. Is there a easier way cuz I seriously thought i was doin it right all along and its easy as hell.. I had a questin tho .. on the highway doin say 60-80 I see them bounce and pop it up I was wonderin if anyone could explain how to do that! Thanks
if you watch that video it explains it. you 1k has gobs of torque to pull the front up with just the throttle, but most bikes will need a little help to get the front end up. you close the throttle for an instant to compress the front suspension, then open it up (clutch it here if needed) and pull up on the handlebars. getting the timing right is critical - the suspension extension, weight transfer of your body pulling on the bars, and power delivery from throttle input all must be balanced. there are 3 possible results: no wheelie or the front tire only comes up a small amount; a perfect wheelie to the balance point; a loop. most riders recommend covering the rear brake in case of a loop. your front suspension will get hammered dropping it out of a wheelie like that, but the bike won't get totaled, and you won't slide across the pavement.
Fictionnn
08-04-2006, 09:34 AM
if you watch that video it explains it. you 1k has gobs of torque to pull the front up with just the throttle, but most bikes will need a little help to get the front end up. you close the throttle for an instant to compress the front suspension, then open it up (clutch it here if needed) and pull up on the handlebars. getting the timing right is critical - the suspension extension, weight transfer of your body pulling on the bars, and power delivery from throttle input all must be balanced. there are 3 possible results: no wheelie or the front tire only comes up a small amount; a perfect wheelie to the balance point; a loop. most riders recommend covering the rear brake in case of a loop. your front suspension will get hammered dropping it out of a wheelie like that, but the bike won't get totaled, and you won't slide across the pavement.
1. usually there is no need to compress the front end when clutching. Its either or. Not to mention you never clutch one you have cracked open the trottle (thats kind of a double negitive).
2. using the rear break normaly will not slam your front end to the ground. Mostly it will bring you down nice and slow if you stay light on the thottle. Closing the throttle while up on one is what will throw your front end down due to the intense engine breaking. USE YOUR REAR BREAK.
just for clarification
Just clutch it up, if you loop it, make sure you have it on video.
IN MY DAY THE BIKES COULD NOT BE BROUGHT UP BY BOUNCING IT UP? THEY WERE TOO HEAVY YOU COULDNT DO IT! YOU HAD TO GRAB THE CLUTCH REV IT TO ABOUT 6-7GRAND AND HOPE FOR THE BEST!
xb9sx_rider
08-07-2006, 01:51 PM
Just clutch it up, if you loop it, make sure you have it on video.
and also if you are gonna loop it, try not to land directly on your ass either......compression fractures to the L1 vertabrate suck!!!!!!!! (sad part is...i wasnt even trying to wheelie:chair: )
mosh69
09-14-2006, 11:13 AM
http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72156
VaderR1
09-14-2006, 05:59 PM
Very good info... I have a DVD on doing whellies by Kyle Woods if anyone wants to borrow it I can get it to you.
PM if interested. It goes into great detail on Bike setups body postion balance point, etc
mosh69
09-14-2006, 06:19 PM
the best info i have found
http://krunkedout4life.tripod.com/id3.html
Dude!!! That is like...the exact article I mentioned to you on the phone today!!! No Shat!!!
That's just weird.
Great info though.
ninjastunter
02-01-2007, 02:58 PM
i needed a video like this !
mosh you gonna be at tsb day!
shanomac11
03-19-2007, 04:55 PM
great vid. now i can cluch it up and pop it just need to be more relaxed and use the rear brake better and have not found the sweet spot yet i'm taking it easy now:chair:
CHRISTINA
12-08-2007, 12:11 PM
QUESTION!
what does slip the clutch mean? and what does that do fo you exactly?
so he was doing a wheelie in 1st gear... can you do a wheelie in other gears?
so you start by learning to do a get the bike off the ground, than you focus on achieving bp?
once you do that you have your perfect wheelie?
Murphy_DX
12-08-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm not into doing wheelies, etc. But I thought this video was good that I found on google.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=motorcycles+wheelie
even though this was old that was actually a very good vid...
CHRISTINA
12-08-2007, 12:18 PM
what does loop it mean?
CHRISTINA
12-08-2007, 12:25 PM
well essentialy a blip is when you get the bike up to the max torque range and hold steady on the throttle. when you are ready you roll hard on the gas for a SPLIT SECOND close it and then crack it open again. The basic mechanics of this is that when you close the throttle the front end compresses and when that happens you pull back on the bars and crack open the throttle again causing a "spring" effect pushing the front wheel in the air. Once it is up just use your throttle to control yourself.
Slipping is by far the smothest and safest way to wheelie. Basicly once again you get to the max torque range. Pull in the clutch and close the throttle. When you are ready you roll on the throttle and basicly dump the clutch causing a burst of power to the rear end and the front will come up. Depending on how much gas you give it will determine how quickly and how high the wheel with rise.
Just remember baby steps. If you are afraid to go higher DON'T.
The best tip anyone ever told me was to relax. When you are done doing the wheelie think about it for a second. If you cant remember everything that was going on AROUND you, you were doing it wrong and you need to chill. Stay calm and focus on the road ahead and everything else will come as a reflex.
Just remember doing a wheelie and riding a wheelie are completely diffrent. Understanding and knowing the diffrence will keep you safe.
i think fiction needs to make a video
ZixxerSixxer
12-08-2007, 12:26 PM
loop= motorcycle flip
CHRISTINA
12-08-2007, 12:30 PM
loop= motorcycle flip
WHAT!
that sounds exciting/completely dangerous..... can you find me a video of such a thing?
can YOU do that? or are you not supposed to do that...lol?
ZixxerSixxer
12-08-2007, 12:43 PM
loop=crash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puAY4wwmLNQ
CHRISTINA
12-08-2007, 12:45 PM
loop=crash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puAY4wwmLNQ
gotcha...i'm new at this.
when you said flip i thought you meant some insane stunt....sad for me i was looking forward to seeing such a thing.
thank you for answering my questions shawn
ZixxerSixxer
12-08-2007, 12:51 PM
no problammo
:occasion1
cbaquol
01-18-2008, 12:15 AM
stunting is a dangerous sport thats for sure so if your new be careful!
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