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CivicLeader
11-12-2007, 04:57 PM
Hey guys/gals...

I've got a interesting question for ya'....

What type of gas do you use in your bikes...


97
93
80-something...


I've got my '07 Gixxer Sixxer and I've been putting in premium for... who knows what reason... maybe because I think I'm getting something out of it...
But... anyhow...
Let me know what ya'll think... I'm curious...
Thanks,
CL

JHoak
11-12-2007, 05:00 PM
93

stevewfl
11-12-2007, 05:01 PM
this would've possibly been a nice poll topic?

GixxerLex
11-12-2007, 05:03 PM
i put in 93 cause it says thats what kind of fuel to use, i wish it was regular that i can use, but i do not know

MixerMike
11-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Shell 93, or RaceTrac 93 if Shell isn't around...V-Power just sounds cool, and if it costs more, it MUST be better....duh!

CivicLeader
11-12-2007, 05:08 PM
this would've possibly been a nice poll topic?

right right... next time...
my bad...
CL

HeWhoIs
11-12-2007, 05:14 PM
I use what my manual says to use. 87 for my FZ6 and 89 for my Triumph Rocket III,

RicanRacerR6
11-12-2007, 05:16 PM
my manual says 91 minimum...

Hocus
11-12-2007, 05:18 PM
I use 93 in both my bikes just cause it says to...when i first got my cbr, i ran 87 because i didn't have a manual. Didn't notice any difference.

sl33p3r
11-12-2007, 05:19 PM
Most of the newer bikes say 91+ octane. I only put 93 in mine.

modifiedflorida
11-12-2007, 05:30 PM
i can use a min of 91...i use 93.. a high performance machine needs high performance food;)

275TP/SP
11-12-2007, 05:30 PM
^^^^^^ plus 1, 93 is the only choice.

BobTheBiker
11-12-2007, 05:40 PM
I run 87 in mine. hey, its a 500. doesnt need high performance gas to run well.

griffinzx10
11-12-2007, 05:42 PM
I put 93 in mine, even though the manual says 87 will work, I figure it will help the bike run better, and I am not spending that much more....

Hem
11-12-2007, 05:46 PM
mine says 90+ octane so I find the highest one on there, hell I'd use 100 if they had it

BUSAFAN
11-12-2007, 05:53 PM
cam2 110 straight from the race track!!

toxikgurl
11-12-2007, 05:58 PM
I use 93!!!!

BUSAFAN
11-12-2007, 06:05 PM
really 93 most of the time... it smells betta!

nannafofanna
11-12-2007, 06:07 PM
i can use a min of 91...i use 93.. a high performance machine needs high performance food;)

Yup

RICO
11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
I use only 93 in mine. Newer bikes should have a knock sensor to retard the timming when knocking, You loose a little power, but it won't harm it.

foggy
11-12-2007, 06:12 PM
well if im paying attention to what button im pushing its 93,but on occation i'll put 103 in to give the girl (bike) a treat for being so good...foggy

Sytrept
11-12-2007, 06:14 PM
i use 87

MixerMike
11-12-2007, 06:14 PM
well if im paying attention to what button im pushing its 93,but on occation i'll put 103 in to give the girl (bike) a treat for being so good...foggy
wait, who sells 103???

epstang95
11-12-2007, 06:26 PM
i use 93 octane cuz the owners manual says so

macgxr750
11-12-2007, 06:47 PM
cam2 110 straight from the race track!!
man cam2!!!!! what is cost like $7-$8 a gallon???? where can I get some 103 petro!!!! Just 93 will due me just fine. At gas prices now a days we will all be commuting on the rockets to work!!! lol

MixerMike
11-12-2007, 06:53 PM
I haven't owned a four-wheel vehicle since 8/06

Azazel
11-12-2007, 06:55 PM
93 in everything I own

Sytrept
11-12-2007, 07:38 PM
theres a sunoco in tampa that has 100 somethings. forgot where.

Rsix
11-12-2007, 08:02 PM
93 in everything I own


+1

stunter78
11-12-2007, 08:30 PM
My car an bike both say to run premium, but I run midgrade.

brn14me
11-12-2007, 08:37 PM
My bike says 91 or better. I read on 600rr.net that it doesn't really matter but I use 93 anyway. 20 cents higer a gallon at 3-4 gallons per fillup, I can afford it ;)

MixerMike
11-12-2007, 08:42 PM
My bike says 91 or better. I read on 600rr.net that it doesn't really matter but I use 93 anyway. 20 cents higer a gallon at 3-4 gallons per fillup, I can afford it ;)
are you kidding??? after you pump like a million gallons, you'd have enough money to buy a house, at today's prices...

RicanRacerR6
11-12-2007, 08:44 PM
man... where are the 91 pumps at... all i keep finding is 93's... i can save those extra 20 cents and buy me a house when i am 99

nitroroo
11-12-2007, 08:45 PM
87 because that's all the little 250 needs. You should be running at least the minimum octane recommended, but running higher than the recommended level won't help you any.

MixerMike
11-12-2007, 08:48 PM
I put 93 in my 250

all in
11-13-2007, 08:09 AM
93 for me. Of course I try to go to stations that do not have all grades sharing one nozzel. I learned that the hose and pumping assemblies hold almost two gallons. So if it was on 87 and push the 93 button up to the first few gallons will be 87. That means we get screwed. I think if you own a sport bike and 91 octane prices bother you,You need to sell it. Thats like buying a Hummer and bitching it gets poor gas mileage.

Jgennaro
11-13-2007, 08:47 AM
Hey guys/gals...

I've got a interesting question for ya'....

What type of gas do you use in your bikes...


97
93
80-something...


I've got my '07 Gixxer Sixxer and I've been putting in premium for... who knows what reason... maybe because I think I'm getting something out of it...
But... anyhow...
Let me know what ya'll think... I'm curious...
Thanks,
CL

Where do you get 97?

miked636
11-13-2007, 09:31 AM
Shell 93, or RaceTrac 93 if Shell isn't around...V-Power just sounds cool, and if it costs more, it MUST be better....duh!
Actually all the additives that shell puts in there gas is not really all that great for your bike.

miked636
11-13-2007, 09:33 AM
93 octane.

miked636
11-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Who wants to purchase high octane fuel like 104 and higher?

Concrete
11-13-2007, 10:28 AM
I use 93

:)

OhSNAP!!!
11-13-2007, 10:38 AM
By the way if anyone wants race fuel they have it at the Sunoco on Dale Mabry lil north of Hillsborough right next to the Ford dealership!

tampabusa
11-13-2007, 10:39 AM
By the way if anyone wants race fuel they have it at the Sunoco on Dale Mabry lil north of Hillsborough right next to the Ford dealership!


what octane level is that ?

Murphy_DX
11-13-2007, 10:42 AM
what octane level is that ?
i saw that before but i wasnt sure that i read that properly....and i think i remember seeing ti as 110....

miked636
11-13-2007, 10:53 AM
I know of a BP in clearwater that has three different race fuel octanes. If I remember right I will get the info if any of you are interested.

playa0069u
11-13-2007, 10:59 AM
I have always read to use what the manual says. If you use higher than what the manual says, it wont combust completely. if it says to use a certain octaine, then the engine is made to have the most complete combustion with that octaine fuel. that is what I have read at least.

miked636
11-13-2007, 11:01 AM
Race fuel. 104 - $7.00, 110 - $7.50, 116 - $8.75.ALL prices per gallon.
Methanol $36.00 per 5 gallon pail. Any takers? So the 116 octane would save murph about 5 minutes then???

OhSNAP!!!
11-13-2007, 11:04 AM
Methanol $36.00 per 5 gallon pail.

Good g_d i pay that to fill my 17G tank up in my SUV. I couldnt imagine paying that much to fill the bike!

tampabusa
11-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Race fuel. 104 - $7.00, 110 - $7.50, 116 - $8.75.ALL prices per gallon.
Methanol $36.00 per 5 gallon pail. Any takers? So the 116 octane would save murph about 5 minutes then???


where is this at ?

miked636
11-13-2007, 11:13 AM
BP in Clearwater. on the corner of bellair and hercules.

Charlie's Belleair Amoco BP
1495 Belleair Road, Clearwater, FL 33756
http://acdelco.com
(727) 559-0110
Only problem is they will not dispense into a vehicle. You must bring a gas can..

mikey69
11-13-2007, 11:24 AM
93 !! and sometime I mix some race gas in with it.... depending on if i want to be cheap or not...

StuntworksMatt
11-13-2007, 01:30 PM
Oh yeah... i use 87 cuz im a cheap ass stunter... lol

never had any problems with it.

Shuttle73
11-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Hess 93

tampabusa
11-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Im Out !


oh ... btw midgrade !

Icon Gixxer
11-13-2007, 02:45 PM
I use 89. My bike is a 05 gsxr and it calls for 87 min. I do not see any difference in performance. It seems to like it all.

Gidget
11-13-2007, 02:46 PM
I guess at this point it would be a complete waste of time and energy to say I use premium in my motorcycle and car. And I use synthetic oil, too.

RicanRacerR6
11-13-2007, 02:51 PM
so.. nobody answer my question... who has 91 at the pump... i want in on the savings...

suicide king
11-13-2007, 03:32 PM
I use 93 oct because it's good.

I want to see more pic that mike mix posts.:sinister:
:occasion1

HeWhoIs
11-13-2007, 04:04 PM
according to my math... if 87 cost 2.89 and u have a 4 gallon tank thats going to cost (2.89x4)= $11.56 and lets say u only put $10 that means you get 3.46Gal

All I really want to know is....where the hell are you getting 87 octane at 2.89/gallon? I want some! :D

RicanRacerR6
11-13-2007, 04:05 PM
All I really want to know is....where the hell are you getting 87 octane at 2.89/gallon? I want some! :D

trashco county boy!!!! haha

Noleman
11-13-2007, 04:31 PM
so.. nobody answer my question... who has 91 at the pump... i want in on the savings...


I think Race Trac has 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, and 93. If not race trac I know someone does.

RicanRacerR6
11-13-2007, 04:32 PM
I think Race Trac has 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, and 93. If not race trac I know someone does.

damn i need to find me one of those....

blueknight
11-13-2007, 04:37 PM
i run 93 aince i bought the bike new, my question is, im going out to the drag strip this weekend. would i gain any advantge or do damage by adding in some 100 octane they have at the track? i would have about a gallon of 93 to dilute it with.

miked636
11-13-2007, 04:44 PM
damn i need to find me one of those....I think the race trac on Park Blvd does.

Sytrept
11-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Can someone please tell me the difference between leaded and unleaded gas? i mean... i just saved a bunch of time by switching to 89 octane.

Train083
11-13-2007, 05:13 PM
wow!
oh and I use 93 except for sunday wasnt paying attention and accidently put in 87

RicanRacerR6
11-13-2007, 05:14 PM
dude... all joking set aside... my friend has an 05 CBR 600RR and he accidentaly put 87... he said the bike ran like shiet.. and it sounded like shiet...

The_Jarhead
11-13-2007, 05:21 PM
dude... all joking set aside... my friend has an 05 CBR 600RR and he accidentaly put 87... he said the bike ran like shiet.. and it sounded like shiet...
If you back some where I tried to explain that yes your bike is designed for a a certain octane and anything will cause it to runn differant. Can cause detonation and timing issies as well as it burns at a diferent temp which can cause problems with plugs.

Running high octane like race fuel requires a remap.

RicanRacerR6
11-13-2007, 05:23 PM
If you back some where I tried to explain that yes your bike is designed for a a certain octane and anything will cause it to runn differant. Can cause detonation and timing issies as well as it burns at a diferent temp which can cause problems with plugs.

Running high octane like race fuel requires a remap.


high five Jarhead...

CBRunes
11-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Uhhhh....Wow...That was the most painful read I've had in a while....My sides a f*cking killing me.
I use 93 ATT...The manual says so...When I start using the PCIII might adjust- but prolly not

MixerMike
11-13-2007, 06:19 PM
I have a PCIII but I want a Stage 3 turbo...

Fictionnn
11-13-2007, 06:40 PM
i use 93

pyroman1
11-13-2007, 08:17 PM
WOW!

For the OP, I use 93 in the bike, the manual says 87, but I felt it was a little sluggish when I tried that. For the little amount of gas the bike holds it's worth my piece of mind. All of my cars use 87.

Higher octane doesn't give any additional benefits beside knocking.
http://autorepair.about.com/od/generalinfo/a/aa060504a.htm

Octane ratings do not change with time. Gas gums up with time and starts to turn into something like varnish.
http://www.soundrider.com/archive/tips/motorcycle_winterization.htm
http://www.thefarm.org/charities/i4at/surv/sta-bil.htm

ebdboudreaux
11-13-2007, 08:21 PM
Dont be stupid and put 100+ octane in your bike thinking it will give you more "power" if you aren't remapped. You'll throw the timing off and just end up doing damage and create some knocking.

LatinBusa
11-13-2007, 08:21 PM
This thread has been clean. If you wish to continue the fun making and jokes you may go here------>http://www.tampasportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14719

blueknight
11-13-2007, 10:33 PM
Dont be stupid and put 100+ octane in your bike thinking it will give you more "power" if you aren't remapped. You'll throw the timing off and just end up doing damage and create some knocking.
thanks for answering my question. it seems kinda hard to get a replty in this thread

Unlimited
11-14-2007, 12:37 AM
the k6 and k7 gsxr 6/750 were designed believe it or not to run the best on 87 gas. due to their combustion chamber design it allows for optimum burn and that translates to more power and better MPG.

morganw
11-14-2007, 07:02 AM
I used the cheapest the pump offers in my 600RR. If you have a stock bike and think 93 or 97 octane is going to help your performance, you are kidding yourself. Pyro and Eb have it right.

morganw
11-14-2007, 07:07 AM
Can someone please tell me the difference between leaded and unleaded gas? i mean... i just saved a bunch of time by switching to 89 octane.
Here is a pretty good article about leaded gas to answer your question http://www.nrdc.org/air/transportation/hleadgas.asp
Doesn't really matter though, unless you know somebody that has been planning for the world to end and stockpiling gas prior to 1973 you are out of luck.

Train083
11-14-2007, 07:13 AM
who ever asked which pumps have 91 most newer 7 elevens have 87, 88, 89, 91, and 93

StuntworksMatt
11-14-2007, 02:27 PM
I guess at this point it would be a complete waste of time and energy to say I use premium in my motorcycle and car. And I use synthetic oil, too.

nope not pointless... i use car oil in my bike... mobil 1 full synthetic

Oldroller
11-14-2007, 02:41 PM
I have no idea what regular gas is but that's all I have every put in my busa and have never had a single problem. I didn't get a manual with my bike so my ignorance has been quite blissful!

The_Jarhead
11-14-2007, 02:49 PM
nope not pointless... i use car oil in my bike... mobil 1 full synthetic
Matt what are your thought on full synthetic effects on the trans and clutch.
I've read in some reports that using normal synthetic is not good for bikes because of the trans/clutch useing oil for lube and not trans fluid. Which is why companies like Amsoil makes specific cycle synthetic
although I have yet to see any actuall proof. Personaly I think they are just out to rape us by charging 2-3 what normal synthetic cost.

miked636
11-14-2007, 02:51 PM
Matt what are your thought on full synthetic effects on the trans and clutch.
I've read in some reports that using normal synthetic is not good for bikes because of the trans/clutch useing oil for lube and not trans fluid. Which is why companies like Amsoil makes specific cycle synthetic
although I have yet to see any actuall proof. Personaly I think they are just out to rape us by charging 2-3 what normal synthetic cost.
Most car oils have a friction reducer in them which is not good for the clutch since it relies on friction to catch. Just some shit I heard and I now I am right because I want to be like the other guy who's never wrong. I won't mention his name but he is JH's best friend....

moke
11-14-2007, 03:39 PM
New technique creates cheap, abundant hydrogen

Mon Nov 12, 4:51 PM ET

CHICAGO (AFP) - US researchers have developed a method of producing hydrogen gas from biodegradable organic material, potentially providing an abundant source of this clean-burning fuel, according to a study released Monday.

The technology offers a way to cheaply and efficiently generate hydrogen gas from readily available and renewable biomass such as cellulose or glucose, and could be used for powering vehicles, making fertilizer and treating drinking water.

Numerous public transportation systems are moving toward hydrogen-powered engines as an alternative to gasoline, but most hydrogen today is generated from nonrenewable fossil fuels such as natural gas.

The method used by engineers at Pennsylvania State University however combines electron-generating bacteria and a small electrical charge in a microbial fuel cell to produce hydrogen gas.

Microbial fuel cells work through the action of bacteria which can pass electrons to an anode. The electrons flow from the anode through a wire to the cathode producing an electric current. In the process, the bacteria consume organic matter in the biomass material.

An external jolt of electricity helps generate hydrogen gas at the cathode.

In the past, the process, which is known as electrohydrogenesis, has had poor efficiency rates and low hydrogen yields.

But the researchers at Pennsylvania State University were able to get around these problems by chemically modifying elements of the reactor.

In laboratory experiments, their reactor generated hydrogen gas at nearly 99 percent of the theoretical maximum yield using aetic acid, a common dead-end product of glucose fermentation.

"This process produces 288 percent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process," said Bruce Logan, a professor of environmental engineering at Penn State.

The technology is economically viable now, which gives hydrogen an edge over another alternative biofuel which is grabbing more headlines, Logan said.

"The energy focus is currently on ethanol as a fuel, but economical ethanol from cellulose is 10 years down the road," said Logan.

"First you need to break cellulose down to sugars and then bacteria can convert them to ethanol."

One of the immediate applications for this technology is to supply the hydrogen that is used in fuel cell cars to generate the electricity that drives the motor, but it could also can be used to convert wood chips into hydrogen to be used as fertilizer.

The study appears in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

OhSNAP!!!
11-14-2007, 03:45 PM
Good find Moke

Soon we will be flying too!!!

HeWhoIs
11-14-2007, 06:44 PM
http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/7135_17040714322.jpg

Rotech7
11-14-2007, 07:08 PM
right right... next time...
my bad...
CL

You can still turn this thread into a poll, by editing ..

As for myself I always look for the best octane 93 ..
And I always run Sunoco fuel in my bikes ..
1st of all ..
The higher the octane the cleaner burning the fuel is
cleaner fuel means longer plug life, because they are less likely to foul-out
Also, high octane = more power ..
Why do you think serious track riders run race fuel 110-114 octane ..?
The only problem is that if you dont have a power comander or the equal
race fuel will not burn properly in your bike because it will be running to lean, causing loss of power or even engine damage with extended use ..
The computer on your bike is pre set for 93 octane ..
My bike was set-up on the power commander to run race fuel, but I was using 93 octane = my bike ran to rich because it couldnt burn all the fuel being delivered to the motor ..
I was accually loosing power as well ...

As this Dyno sheet shows below ...

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/Rotech7/KineticDynorun1-2.jpg

As you can see the blue line was when my power commander was set for race fuel while running 93 (pump gas)
The red line shows the change after my power commander was reprogrammed for 93 octane & my gain of 2 hp
If you look you will see the air fuel mixture ..
The red line shows how the fuel was being burned more efficiently then previously ...

So I would recommend running 93 when ever possible ...

Murphy_DX
11-14-2007, 07:20 PM
its a smoother run ill grant that but what about the difference between 87 and 93 i want to see that....


(and in cars it is called an O2 sensor...mine goes out regularly when i use 87 from mobil, like every 40,000 miles...in the car that is)

SSA
11-14-2007, 09:44 PM
has anyone thought of using jet fuel. look how fast they can refuel planes!!!

all in
11-14-2007, 09:48 PM
How long before jet fuel messes up the o2 sensor. Do jets have o2 sensors???

Rotech7
11-14-2007, 09:50 PM
has anyone thought of using jet fuel. look how fast they can refuel planes!!!

I dont know about jet fuel, but aviation fuel is produced by Exxon & its 100 octane .... I use to run it in my dirt bikes back in the day ...

StuntworksMatt
11-15-2007, 08:33 AM
Matt what are your thought on full synthetic effects on the trans and clutch.
I've read in some reports that using normal synthetic is not good for bikes because of the trans/clutch useing oil for lube and not trans fluid. Which is why companies like Amsoil makes specific cycle synthetic
although I have yet to see any actuall proof. Personaly I think they are just out to rape us by charging 2-3 what normal synthetic cost.

Wet clutches usually should be taken a little better care of... but, mobil 1 is a phenominal oil.

There was an old article, just spent an hour looking for it, on motorcycle oil vs. car oil in i believe it was sport rider. If i remember correctly they came up with car and motorcycle oil not being any different when you use it in your bike. I know how it works in our $20,000 motors so ill use it lol. Its mostly just a personal preference. honestly if the mobil 1 wasnt free and i could afford repsol i'd use it.

The major difference in all oils is going to be the viscosity ratings and detergent content.

if none of this makes any sense just tell me, cuz its early and im not awake. lol. :gay:

StuntworksMatt
11-15-2007, 08:44 AM
I dont know about jet fuel, but aviation fuel is produced by Exxon & its 100 octane .... I use to run it in my dirt bikes back in the day ...

Leaded race fuel will damage O2 sensors and possibliy clog injector orafices. So be careful running it, make sure your bike does not have O2 sensors.

Unleaded 100 or 104 octane is awesome, run it in your car, bike, lawn mower all day long its great for it.

Murphy_DX
11-15-2007, 08:54 AM
Unleaded 100 or 104 octane is awesome, run it in your car, bike, lawn mower all day long its great for it.
this just seems sarcastic to me for some reason....

LatinBusa
11-15-2007, 09:44 AM
this just seems sarcastic to me for some reason....Don't start crap again. I will not move it this time. I will remove it.

tampabusa
11-15-2007, 09:50 AM
Don't start crap again. I will not move it this time. I will remove it.


LMAO !!!

StuntworksMatt
11-15-2007, 10:07 AM
Matt what are your thought on full synthetic effects on the trans and clutch.
I've read in some reports that using normal synthetic is not good for bikes because of the trans/clutch useing oil for lube and not trans fluid. Which is why companies like Amsoil makes specific cycle synthetic
although I have yet to see any actuall proof. Personaly I think they are just out to rape us by charging 2-3 what normal synthetic cost.


here... mobil answers our questions for us.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Differences_Between_Car_and_Motorcycle_Oil.aspx

StuntworksMatt
11-15-2007, 10:08 AM
Don't start crap again. I will not move it this time. I will remove it.

you need some lubrication advice LB?????

Murphy_DX
11-15-2007, 10:09 AM
Don't start crap again. I will not move it this time. I will remove it.
im not starting anything any time it just seemed like he was being sarcastic...

The_Jarhead
11-15-2007, 10:46 AM
you need some lubrication advice LB?????
when making love to a gay midget go you perfer Astroglide or KY

Murphy_DX
11-15-2007, 10:55 AM
when making love to a gay midget go you perfer Astroglide or KY
i knew it....:gay:

what ever happened to dont ask dont tell

blueknight
11-20-2007, 12:24 PM
does anyone have info on U4.2 by vp fuels? i was out at the drag strip this week and i heard of this stuff. it was said to be good to run in a stock gsxr motor (for race purposes only).

bretthassick
11-25-2007, 01:58 PM
Matt what are your thought on full synthetic effects on the trans and clutch.
I've read in some reports that using normal synthetic is not good for bikes because of the trans/clutch useing oil for lube and not trans fluid. Which is why companies like Amsoil makes specific cycle synthetic
although I have yet to see any actuall proof. Personaly I think they are just out to rape us by charging 2-3 what normal synthetic cost.
the problem is molybdium (spelling?)
zinc and phosphorus are good...

but sometimes molybdium is used to replace zinc and phosphorus.
if you get synthetic with no moly it is supposed to be fine. which is why rotella 5w-40 diesel oil is popular.. no moly and 2x as much zinc and phosphorus as normal car oil... very very similar and much cheaper than "motorcycle oil"

alabaster
11-25-2007, 04:24 PM
87 Octane. That's what my manual calls for, and I haven't done anything to warrant higher octane yet. Maybe when I drop in the cam and Busa pistons I'll go to 91 or 93, but till then I'm enjoyin cheapo gas!